
We’re talking about a church smack in the middle of quite a densely Christian populated area..Al Zaytoon.
A church that is down in Egyptian History as one that witnessed an Apparition of the Virgin Mary back in 1968. An apparition verified by many Muslims and Christians alike!
I heard there were initially two bombs, one that went off and another that was stopped or just didn’t explode for some reason. The bomb was in a car parked near/outside the church as a wedding ceremony was taking place inside.
Anyway, news sources say the explosion was obviously intended as a scare rather than an intention to kill. Which is sad really, because in this situation it’s clearly an intention to scare an ENTIRE group of people. Church + Zaytoon = A bunch of Christians.
This is a minority that by now, has probably grown immune to this BS! Whether it’s governmental crackdowns or societal discrimination or human right violations or sectarian violence, this Minority’s skin is a little tougher than that I think.
Crazy man stabbing people randomly in church, or girls having sulphuric acid thrown at their faces and chests for wearing crosses, or thrown under subway trains etc. etc.
I must honestly say that:
a) I believe the Christian Minority to be more than 10%, but no one will ever actually count!
b) The Christian population is a lot more spread out across Egypt than that! lol
c) Aggression near a place of worship is a downright declaration of war. WHAT THE HELL?!? What are these people thinking?
I honestly want to know? What is the purpose here? Do we want Egypt to be void of non-muslims? Do we want them to go extinct? Do we want them to live in fear and continuously hang their heads low?
Oh wait, I forgot, let’s not blame the Muslims for this one. Here’s objectivity for you, perhaps it’s some crazy Christian guy with a grudge and wanted to marry the bride or something, perhaps it’s completely random, and hey, perhaps it’s like the national paper said, it was just an electric fire from faulty fuse wirings in the car.
You know something? I HOPE it’s any of these lame reasons instead.
Anyway regarding that incident, i read its full report in the paper and it turned out to be a failture in the car’s wires which caused the sound of that bombing.
So before jumping to false accusation and causing unnecessary chaos, check ur sources first and stop blaming the mouslims.
Like urm...call someone who was there? Ask an eye witness...etc?
I do not jump to conclusions, i state facts. And as I said, perhaps this had nothing to do with secular tension,and I really hope that’s the case.
1st of all: unfortunatly in every faith and in every race there r bad people just like there r good people and there are extremists too this is a fact , sadly extremists exist all over the globe from all religions and beliefs, if that incident u wrote about is a truely racist act targeting copts particulary or non muslims generaly then i’m totally completely against it exactly like i’m against any racism happening anywhere in the world against muslims or against anyone else and that really happens it really does .
SO there r christian extremists and racists and jewish extremists and racists , hindus , buddhists , wicans, atheists and agnostics etc,i really HOPE i oneday not read someone claiming that the KKK r muslims.
2nd of all: unfortunatly minorities in every country have problems not only in Egypt.
finally why generalize ????? why spread hatred??? isn’t prejudice a tool of the devil?!
in case anyone don’t or can’t believe me i’m ready to prove every word i said here, i can bring examples with its sources too.
Thank u, looking forward to read more from u :)
So far, you haven’t told me a thing i don’t know, and I’m sure nothing no one around here doesn’t know either.
Your point?
it’s the result of ignorance and intentional irrational thinking. No devil vs. God here..
2nd: Your other point is valid and acceptable that minorities do suffer everywhere. I take it.
thank u for replying me :)
I reserve the right to make state these opinions and observation without it having to do anything with my religion, and not having it even come into question.
Yet it is much harder, almost impossible, for a new church to be built smack in the middle of a previously established community, and is also very hard to obtain the necessary legal papers to renovate, rebuild, or expand a n existing church.
An explosion outside one of the Coptic community’s holiest churches in Cairo on Sunday night was the result of a homemade bomb, the Ministry of Interior confirmed yesterday in a statement.
The government said the bomb was a container inside a car parked in front the Lady Virgin Church in Helmiyat Al-Zatoun. Its explosion caused damage to a Fiat 128 parked in front of it belonging to one of the residents in the area. No one was hurt, and no damage was caused to the building.
Eyewitnesses told Daily News Egypt that the first explosion occurred at around 9 pm. According to the official statement, the vehicle, a Fiat 125 sedan, belonged to a Christian lawyer.
Rest http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=21642
I always hear comments here and there (Islam is the Religion of War, Islam is the Religion of Peace) or (Islam is the worst Religion EVER! , Islam is the NICEST Religion ever!) ... ect
For those who know Islam from its sources (Qur’an and *Sunnah*), they know whether ”what happens on the scene of events” is of Islam teachings or.. not.
And it is a SAD idea -for me- to come to Defend Islam, since Truth defends its self.. but, however, I can see that the topic which is being discussed in this page is about (Islam and treating non Muslims.. co-existance.. violance.. killing non Muslims.. hatred.. UnLoyality.. ect), if it is so, so I call everyone Who is interested to know about that TO SEARCH FOR ( What Islam Says regarding dealing with non Muslims ) we have only ONE Qur’an and even *Sunnah* is Protected by Allah also by the *Science of Hadeeth* (which identifies which of the Narrations are correct/acceptable and which is not, based on the chain of Narrators’ trustworthy - this is a HUGE science).. so, why not you go to an Islamic center nearby -for example- and ask them OUT LOUD (WHAT DOES ISLAM SAY ABOUT DEALING WITH NON MUSLIMS?) - despite how many smiles you’ll see and how Nice will Muslims try to go with you, but you only have an eye looking at what Qur’an and Sunnah TEACH about that.. since (me and you) can go on *pretending* to be ”Anything!”, but that’s just (me or you), but to learn about The True Religion of Allah.. it must be Authenticated, it’s not left for ”people” to decide what the Religion of God *should be*.
So, in brief after all what I wrote: Judge the people by the Book, and do not judge the book by the people.
:: On YouTube ::
( How does Islam say to deal with Non Muslims? Former Christian Minister Yusuf Estes on TheDeenShow )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQTHVJ68MCI
You want to make it something it is not, so don’t blame the ones who are following, blame the one who lead.
Your fiery today
Never try to talk sence to a formed mine because the brainwashing won’t be able to hear you
The world will be filled with crazyies as long as crazies keep filling the new generations with craziness
Nuya-if your going to talk logic make sure your well disguised because the mostly crazies of the world will try to find you and force you to think like them
Just look what man has done to and is still doing to woman
The molding and control over women’s minds was a masterful piece of mind forming
H.R. 12: Paycheck Fairness Act
Introduced Jan 6, 2009
Sponsor Rep. Rosa DeLauro [D-CT]
Status Passed House (98% of Democrats supporting, 95% of Republicans opposing.)
Notice that 95% of the Religious right did not support it?
Yea, well if Equal Pay act of 1963 had been enforced this would not be an issue. That whole patriarchal, theist mindset is getting on my last nerve.
You are right, I shouldn’t lash out at them, it is not like the hamsters are going to get off the wheel any time soon. AHEM! Oh well, it made me feel better for a minute lol
I told you that you are in the wrong time of our evoution to be treated equal -by the male dominated world and his gods
Nuya -i would be more than willing to have you vent on me because it might be safer
Earth is still to dangerous to show your identity or true felling
Think of the love of your family when you get frustrated with the world and find pleasant things to see and feel
WAYNE
As for being afraid of them..... I say...BRING IT! I will slam the door on them faster than a Jehovah’s witness.
Oh speaking of pleasant things to see and feel, did you see this?
Young Pakistanis Take One Problem Into Their Own Hands
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/world/asia/19trash.html?th&emc=th
Things like this are what let me know that the whole world is not crazy. These great kids figured out that just complaining was not going to get anything done. A lesson that a lot of adults would do well to learn. I hope it makes you smile too.
We could use more people like you running the world in order to instill a little common sence
Thanks for the link and yes children have more common sence than adults, but the older they get the more the mind forming
Nuya -you make me smile, when you verbally spank people that deserve it
Do be careful though because there are too many crazies in the world to deal with
Life is short so my recommendation is to hug and be around your love ones as much as life will permit
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Anyway regarding that incident, i read its full report in the paper and it turned out to be a failture in the car’s wires which caused the sound of that bombing.
So before jumping to false accusation and causing unnecessary chaos, check ur sources first and stop blaming the mouslims.
1st of all: unfortunatly in every faith and in every race there r bad people just like there r good people and there are extremists too this is a fact , sadly extremists exist all over the globe from all religions and beliefs, if that incident u wrote about is a truely racist act targeting copts particulary or non muslims generaly then i’m totally completely against it exactly like i’m against any racism happening anywhere in the world against muslims or against anyone else and that really happens it really does .
SO there r christian extremists and racists and jewish extremists and racists , hindus , buddhists , wicans, atheists and agnostics etc,i really HOPE i oneday not read someone claiming that the KKK r muslims.
2nd of all: unfortunatly minorities in every country have problems not only in Egypt.
finally why generalize ????? why spread hatred??? isn’t prejudice a tool of the devil?!
in case anyone don’t or can’t believe me i’m ready to prove every word i said here, i can bring examples with its sources too.
Thank u, looking forward to read more from u :)
So far, you haven’t told me a thing i don’t know, and I’m sure nothing no one around here doesn’t know either.
Your point?
Like urm...call someone who was there? Ask an eye witness...etc?
I do not jump to conclusions, i state facts. And as I said, perhaps this had nothing to do with secular tension,and I really hope that’s the case.
it’s the result of ignorance and intentional irrational thinking. No devil vs. God here..
thank u for replying me :)
I reserve the right to make state these opinions and observation without it having to do anything with my religion, and not having it even come into question.
Yet it is much harder, almost impossible, for a new church to be built smack in the middle of a previously established community, and is also very hard to obtain the necessary legal papers to renovate, rebuild, or expand a n existing church.
An explosion outside one of the Coptic community’s holiest churches in Cairo on Sunday night was the result of a homemade bomb, the Ministry of Interior confirmed yesterday in a statement.
The government said the bomb was a container inside a car parked in front the Lady Virgin Church in Helmiyat Al-Zatoun. Its explosion caused damage to a Fiat 128 parked in front of it belonging to one of the residents in the area. No one was hurt, and no damage was caused to the building.
Eyewitnesses told Daily News Egypt that the first explosion occurred at around 9 pm. According to the official statement, the vehicle, a Fiat 125 sedan, belonged to a Christian lawyer.
Rest http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=21642
I always hear comments here and there (Islam is the Religion of War, Islam is the Religion of Peace) or (Islam is the worst Religion EVER! , Islam is the NICEST Religion ever!) ... ect
For those who know Islam from its sources (Qur’an and *Sunnah*), they know whether ”what happens on the scene of events” is of Islam teachings or.. not.
And it is a SAD idea -for me- to come to Defend Islam, since Truth defends its self.. but, however, I can see that the topic which is being discussed in this page is about (Islam and treating non Muslims.. co-existance.. violance.. killing non Muslims.. hatred.. UnLoyality.. ect), if it is so, so I call everyone Who is interested to know about that TO SEARCH FOR ( What Islam Says regarding dealing with non Muslims ) we have only ONE Qur’an and even *Sunnah* is Protected by Allah also by the *Science of Hadeeth* (which identifies which of the Narrations are correct/acceptable and which is not, based on the chain of Narrators’ trustworthy - this is a HUGE science).. so, why not you go to an Islamic center nearby -for example- and ask them OUT LOUD (WHAT DOES ISLAM SAY ABOUT DEALING WITH NON MUSLIMS?) - despite how many smiles you’ll see and how Nice will Muslims try to go with you, but you only have an eye looking at what Qur’an and Sunnah TEACH about that.. since (me and you) can go on *pretending* to be ”Anything!”, but that’s just (me or you), but to learn about The True Religion of Allah.. it must be Authenticated, it’s not left for ”people” to decide what the Religion of God *should be*.
So, in brief after all what I wrote: Judge the people by the Book, and do not judge the book by the people.
:: On YouTube ::
( How does Islam say to deal with Non Muslims? Former Christian Minister Yusuf Estes on TheDeenShow )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQTHVJ68MCI
Global Opinions (13)
2nd: Your other point is valid and acceptable that minorities do suffer everywhere. I take it.
You want to make it something it is not, so don’t blame the ones who are following, blame the one who lead.
Your fiery today
Never try to talk sence to a formed mine because the brainwashing won’t be able to hear you
The world will be filled with crazyies as long as crazies keep filling the new generations with craziness
Nuya-if your going to talk logic make sure your well disguised because the mostly crazies of the world will try to find you and force you to think like them
Just look what man has done to and is still doing to woman
The molding and control over women’s minds was a masterful piece of mind forming
H.R. 12: Paycheck Fairness Act
Introduced Jan 6, 2009
Sponsor Rep. Rosa DeLauro [D-CT]
Status Passed House (98% of Democrats supporting, 95% of Republicans opposing.)
Notice that 95% of the Religious right did not support it?
Yea, well if Equal Pay act of 1963 had been enforced this would not be an issue. That whole patriarchal, theist mindset is getting on my last nerve.
You are right, I shouldn’t lash out at them, it is not like the hamsters are going to get off the wheel any time soon. AHEM! Oh well, it made me feel better for a minute lol
I told you that you are in the wrong time of our evoution to be treated equal -by the male dominated world and his gods
Nuya -i would be more than willing to have you vent on me because it might be safer
Earth is still to dangerous to show your identity or true felling
Think of the love of your family when you get frustrated with the world and find pleasant things to see and feel
WAYNE
As for being afraid of them..... I say...BRING IT! I will slam the door on them faster than a Jehovah’s witness.
Oh speaking of pleasant things to see and feel, did you see this?
Young Pakistanis Take One Problem Into Their Own Hands
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/world/asia/19trash.html?th&emc=th
Things like this are what let me know that the whole world is not crazy. These great kids figured out that just complaining was not going to get anything done. A lesson that a lot of adults would do well to learn. I hope it makes you smile too.
We could use more people like you running the world in order to instill a little common sence
Thanks for the link and yes children have more common sence than adults, but the older they get the more the mind forming
Nuya -you make me smile, when you verbally spank people that deserve it
Do be careful though because there are too many crazies in the world to deal with
Life is short so my recommendation is to hug and be around your love ones as much as life will permit
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